Lee Doren attacked the theory of Anthropogenic Global Warming in the video Stupid with a few tweets that linked global warming with the recent earthquake in Japan. However these tweets weren’t made by scientists, and as such have no baring whatsoever on the science involved. Website: www.mijnonlineplekje.nl twitter www.twitter.com Sources: The following Retweets in the next minute will demonstrate that the Left is a religion just as fervent as any other. Ready? Okay. twitter.com My Twitter Retweets Today of People blaming the Earthquake on Global Warming made it on Drudge, via @DailyCaller goo.gl twitter.com Some respond to Japan earthquake by pointing to global warming dailycaller.com Melting Ice Sheets Can Cause Earthquakes, Study Finds news.nationalgeographic.com Response of faults to climate-driven changes in ice and water volumes on Earth’s surface rsta.royalsocietypublishing.org Retreating Glaciers Spur Alaskan Earthquakes www.nasa.gov Melting ice caps may trigger more volcanic eruptions www.newscientist.com Mean Sea Level rise www.aviso.oceanobs.com Principles of Engineering Geology www.bookdepository.co.uk Global Tectonics, 3rd Edition eu.wiley.com Media resources: HowTheWorldWorks – Stupid www.youtube.com NASA — Operation IceBridge svs.gsfc.nasa.gov NASA — Salt of the earth www.nasa.gov NASA – TOPEX/JASON Sea Level svs.gsfc.nasa.gov Sailor carries debris to dumpsite during cleanup effort at Misawa, Japan following earthquake. taken by Official US Navy Imagery …
I think one can savely say that every earthquake that happens in the vicinity of a fault line or subduction zone is an earthquake caused by plate tectonics and not by isostatic rebound.
Even intraplate earthquakes do happen because of faults and cracks in the Earth’s crust.
It will be very hard to tell if an earthquake happened because of isostatic rebounding. At least the epicenters of these quakes should be really deep inside the crust.
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That made me make the remark of you being suddenly a Geologist. Of course it was plate tectonics that made that earthquake happen. But we don’t know (again) if the moon was the trigger or if the moon had anything to do with it or not.
It certainly was not isostatic rebound. That’s for sure. Besides can you give me anexample of an earthquake that happened because of isostatic rebound? I know of intraplate earthquakes.
That is the reason why I don’t really understand your video at all.
@CollinMaessen In science it is still a researched subject, but I don’t think science will ever find a correlation between earthquakes and the influence of the moon on them.
So I don’t really see the dishonesty in this subject.
We don’t know if the moon’s gravitational pull has had any influence on the Earthquake in Japan. We do know that the orbital distance of the moon was shorter in that week when it happened.
I think your conclusion to say: No it was not caused by the moon! [cont]
@CollinMaessen You did not mention this subject in your video. That’s correct, but you should have and that is why I wanted it to be mentioned.
Like Lee Doren says: It would not surprise me if the Earthquakes are going to be blamed on Global Warming.
And there are a lot of people out there who really believe that.
How many times do you hear of Earthquakes in Scandinavia, Russia, Canada or Great Britain because of isostatic rebound? Even the moon theory is more plausible.
@CollinMaessen And we don’t know the tipping points behaviour.
So in fact Earth’s tidal flexing happens every day (constantly) because of its own rotation with respect to the moons gravitational pull. And it is not clear if that pull can be the cause for minor earthquakes only or big ones as well. Nobody knows. But it is a force to reckon with.
@CollinMaessen Have you ever heard of ‘metal fatigue’ (the progressive and localized structural damage that occurs when a material is subjected to cyclic loadings)?
It’s a similar process.
When a tipping point flips the Earthquake is a fact. Now when the moon is closer to Earth. Its gravitational pull increases causing more stress to the Earth’s crust and the chance that a tipping point will flip increases. That is why Earthquakes can never be predicted. We don’t know the tipping points.
@CollinMaessen OK!
Earth rotates every 24 hours. So it is not really important where the moon is located during its 27 days orbit.
We know the moon pulls on the Earth because of the tides. It also pulls on the inside of the Earth where the magma and all the other unknown stuff is. That will cause some stress on the tectonic plates. This stress could be important for faults that are “stuck” to loosen. That causes the Earthquake.
@robbieopen This is an example of why I told you to discuss honestly with me. As I’ve just had an adrenal crisis I’m NOT in the mood to deal with this kind of nonsense, accusations and vitriol.
I strongly suggest you change your tone or I will tell you to pack your things and move somewhere else.
Ban warning 1.
@robbieopen Or that Jupiter is about 300 times heavier than the earth. Similar things happen to those other moons. Don’t you think this indicates a vastly different scenario and level of forces involved?
And I never claimed that I am a geologist now did I? Just like Womble mentioned, she is someone I consult on these matters. I even mentioned her in this video. And lets not forget, did I mention the moon or any of it’s effects on the earth in this video? No.
@robbieopen Not to mention this is a blog maintained by Phil Plait who, as an astronomer, knows a thing or two about this.
And about the tidal flexing, do you have any idea about the forces involved for those moons? Io has an orbit that causes it to gravitational resonate with Europe and Ganymedes. Which then causes extreme tidal flexing with Jupiter. Not to mention that Io orbits Jupiter in less than two days, when the moon at a roughly similar distance from the earth takes about 27 days.
@robbieopen For the love of…
You referenced a video where someone makes earthquake predictions based on the orbit of the moon. The whole supermoon term is coined for the moon being at perigee, exactly what you are referring to with that video.
And you dismiss this because it’s just a blog? You yourself have referenced blogs for articles and graphs. And you often also cite videos and snippets of documentaries. Blogs can be accurate enough to clarify a subject.
@robbieopen
Tidal flexing = BULLSHIT!
@robbieopen
Irrispective of whether or not Collin is a Geologist *I* am, and as the nice person I am I let him pick my brains on stuff. OH, and thats not Collins blog, thats Phil Plait’s, he’s an astronomer not a geologist…..but he still knows his stuff. So how about you run along and hassle someone else yeah?
@CollinMaessen So CollinMaessen is suddenly a geologist as well that comes up with a blog. Yes a blog as proof this can’t be happening.
Where did I speak of a supermoon in my comment? And do you agree with me if the moon is closer to Earth its gravitational pull will be slightly stronger?
@robbieopen Completely forgot about this comment. There are some good articles about what you referenced with that video:
blogs.discovermagazine. com/badastronomy/2011/03/18/kryptonite-for-the-supermoon/
So in short, the moon can cause minor earthquakes, but to the extend as claimed in that video: no.
Well let’s see if there are other possibillities for earthquakes to happen:
watch?v=BBj7RYI4vsA&feature=player_embedded
It’s called ‘Tidal Flexing’. On other moons like Europe it is believed to be happening, but not on Earth with its own big moon. Our moon is allowed to cause water tides, but not Earthquakes. Right!
@CollinMaessen Go ahead and block me, my friend. I came here in the first place only by way of a shared link. And I would never have found myself on this channel otherwise, as I don’t mix well with those who are too serious and defensive.
God bless. : )
@q7spiz You could just look it up if you don’t know what it is…
And with the last point you get it. Reality is complicated and you need to check if an event is actually linked.
@MyFriendLeonard1 Stop trolling.
Ban warning 1.
@AngryWomble Fail? I’m winning you over without even trying! I must be even more charming than I ever imagined.
: )
@MyFriendLeonard1
I wonder…..do you naturally fail this hard or do you have to get up early in the morning to practice?
@AngryWomble O my God. – You’re falling in love with me! : D
@AngryWomble Then I’ll prepare it so you can snack on it after you wombled me…
@CollinMaessen Doesn’t Occam’s Razor say that everything is equal? If correlation does not imply causation, then a set of events occurring in a close proximity of time frame not directly having anything to do with each other; makes the over all mechanics of reality allot more complicated than it seems.
@MyFriendLeonard1
Projection much…. I’m not the one that can’t handle being spanked hard with science…..now take your fail elsewhere.